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Michael Pachter says "The UK games retail market is a joke." Is he wrong?



Michael Pachter, Analyst and GTTV star, has said that he feels the UK Retail Industry is a joke.

Speaking to Digital Spy, Pachter said,"The UK games retail market is a joke, with retailers pricing below cost to drive traffic.

"That's great for consumers, but retailers can't make any money on games, hence the bankruptcies of GAME, HMV and Blockbuster, and the refusal of GameStop to expand into the market.

"If all retailers go broke, or if games are dominated by mass merchants like Dixons, gamers are ultimately going to get fewer selections," he said.

Pachter also added that the absence of GameStop and the demise of GAME limits the ability of consumers to trade in used games, depriving many of credits that can be used to purchase new games.

"Retail needs to make money to exist, and games retail in the UK doesn't make money."

The UK games industry has seen sales decrease in recent years, however we do seem to be coming to the end of an era as far as the current consoles are concerned. Will the next generation help pick things up again?

He hasn't even mentioned popular and highly successful online retailers such as ShopTo. Then there are services such as Origin, PSN, Xbox LIVE and Steam, all of which are doing a great job at selling games to consumers.

Do you feel Pachter is right?


Edited On 11 Feb, 2013

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Dead 4 years ago
Has he not heard that online retailers sell games, or that Ebay lets you sell your used games, for more than any shop would give you on trade in too.
Lavindathar's avatar
I'm confused about your point. Online retailers also sell games at a loss. Usually more so over the retail part. They sell even cheaper. And selling on ebay, re-inforces his point more, as its more lost business for the retailer.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Dead's avatar
My point is he is talking purely about bricks and mortar retailers, as if online retailers don't exist, and that without them gamers will have no way of getting money for used games, which is blatantly not true.
Dead 4 years ago
0000000000's avatar
i totally agree with u gloria!
0000000000 4 years ago
superniceguy's avatar
I thought it was referring to both online and brick and mortar retailers. The reason why the latter go out of busines /get in trouble is because online retailers drop prices way too quick, especially in the UK. Looking at US sites and other places games do not seem to drop so fast. It gets annoying buying a game at £35-£40 and then a week or so later they are half price. Back in the days of the N64 it would take about 6 months to a year before prices made serious price drops. With online retailers not having extra costs they can afford to drop prices, but still makes not much sense as could have made more money from it. Even if the game costs £40 for a long time, it you could buy it, play it and resell it, you'd lose only about £5 or so, but with prices dropping faster you will lose more than that by the time you resell it, so in the end it is best to wait until its about £15-£20 which does not take long these days, and so then games just drop in price faster and faster. Steam is only good to me in small doses or when games get as low as £3, as you can not resell /trade in the games. If the next gen do not support pre-owned games then the next gen will be even worse, as I am not paying £40 for a brand new game, and not be able to have the option to sell it. I will wait for the game to get to below £20 or below, even £5, before buying it. ebay is an option but a bit of a pain, I tend to use Amazon or play.com, and street retailers like GAME are a convenience. He also says that the lack of Gamestop and GAME "limits" the ability to trade in games ie not much choice, he did not say there would not way to trade in games. Basically IMO I think online retailers should keep full price a lot longer, then street retailers will be able to compete more and stay more viable.
superniceguy 4 years ago
Anonymous user's avatar
and cex too they buy games but never use them as they are rubbish everything from there is scratched
Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
Anonymous user's avatar
online retailers are the best and where the best prices are supermarkets are killing the town centre even my clothes shops are closing everywhere
Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
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Bindiana 4 years ago
Not sure I agree with Game, HMV and blockbuster were selling games at a loss as they were always more expensive then online. They went bust because they couldnt compete online and they got to greedy on the 2nd hand market offering little for your games but charging high prices for used games.
Lavindathar's avatar
What do you mean 'not sure you agree with Game'. You do realise Game have had major financial troubles in recent years? Not sure what you can't agree with.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Bindiana's avatar
I dont agree with they were selling at a loss as they were all more expensive then any other online retailer. Shopto regualry sells things cheaper then both Game and HMV. So they would be selling at a bigger loss they also would have to pay staff warehouse costs and machinery costs and postage costs there loss would be astronomical yet there still here.
Bindiana 4 years ago
Anonymous user's avatar
agree but the three of them sold second hand at stupid prices i remember seeing two copies of heavy rain new and second hand sat side by side new was£39.99 and second hand was £38.99 and trade in was £36!
Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
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Lavindathar 4 years ago
Of course he is right.... Unless anyone hre thinks that selling below cost on many titles is a good business move. Its not like Tescos, where you can sell 20% of your stock below cost, as you know consumers will grab a load more items to make up for it. Games, the average consumer will go in store and purchase one game. The retailers don't make it up anywhere else. Even online, they often sell at a loss. However, eventually it'll turn a corner. Purely because, there will only be one retailer left. Eventually this happens in most markets....last man standing wins the war.
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DynamiteWhyte 4 years ago
I do agree with him in a way. When you look at you are paying up to £15 a time to get a game a week or two before everyone else, it's a bit mental. You could get Playstation All-Stars for £39 on release day, then 2 weeks later, you'd get the same game for £19. Same with Far Cry, Hitman etc. The only ones that retain their value are FIFA/COD. It's brilliant for us, but it's obviously not the best for companys.
Lavindathar's avatar
So, you agree with him in every sense of the word agree then? Not just "in a way". He's right, whichever way it gets dressed up. Its great for us consumers though. However, this article has posed a question, that only has one real answer.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
DynamiteWhyte's avatar
Someone's upset. I'd happily build you a bear to cheer you up.
DynamiteWhyte 4 years ago
Lavindathar's avatar
Hey I agree with you lol. But, a bear would be nice.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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Mr XBob 4 years ago
I love how he says "to drive traffic" - ironic because that's all he's good for. I've always hated this guy - he's one of those "analysts" that just gets paid to make random crap up in order to drive traffic to some of the biggest (corporate) gaming sites such as IGN and Gamespot. They PAY him to write gamer-enraging headlines that guarantees traffic and ad revenue via page impressions. This "problem" with retailers is the same across the globe, in all kinds of genres. Clothes, DVDs, books, games, petrol, milk, groceries. They ALL have to price below cost to drive traffic. It's the same in his very own country. He also clearly did no research, as Gamestop do exist in the UK/Ireland.
Lavindathar's avatar
Sigh.

Yes, other companies price below to drive traffic. but make it up in other areas. Asda/Tesco made hundreds of millions last year, and they are the king of sales. Surely youve heard of the "supermarket wars".

HMV/Game/Blockbuster are LOSING money. Fact. Submitted tax forms etc, FACT.

So, how on earth can you disagree with what hes saying? Oh right, you hate him.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Mr XBob's avatar
My hatred of the man has no effect on the facts. Every shop in the entire world (gaming or otherwise) has to drive prices down to make sales in a competitive market. Whether they make the money back or not is not the issue here. Gamestop, WalMart and Best Buy (in his very own country, mind you) do the same thing. Gamestop have always been going under in one way or another - they always have to lower their prices insanely low on big releases and make sure they get exclusives. He's ignorant to the facts - but that is his job. He writes things to get people to click. He did his job. He's an idiot.
Mr XBob 4 years ago
Lavindathar's avatar
Sorry, but its completely the issue. He's saying the UK retail industry makes no money due to its business model. Thats the point of what hes saying. It's the entire point of the article.

The companies don't make money, therefore, his point is accurate, valid, and ultimately, he's right.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Mr XBob's avatar
He's right about *some*. There are still some game retailers trying to get £49.99 from poor saps who don't know any better. The biggest beef I have with this "article" is that he says it as though only UK companies suffer from it, which is a ridiculous statement.
Mr XBob 4 years ago
Lavindathar's avatar
But he doesn't say other countries dont suffer. Maybe the question was posed as "what do you think of the UK retail industry?". We don't know, its not in the article.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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Barada 4 years ago
This guy - who makes a living, apparently, within social, video and technology media, seems out of touch with this virtual reality we allow ourselves to live within (gaming). The top four video markets are worth about €4billion-a-year combined in Europe. And where exactly do the retailers sell 'under cost' - if the market can't make a living from selling £40 new releases, then something is seriously unbalanced on their economic see-saw!
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Bindiana 4 years ago
Lavindathar so why arent online retailers going bust but high street ones are? I will give you a clue its not becuase they are selling below cost.
Lavindathar's avatar
The guy isn't talking about online retailers.....they don't pay rent. wages. gas bills on hundreds of stores.

Online retailing cost to run is a LOT lower than retail.

And as an example, lets say Game retail division loses £10million a year (made up figure). Lets say Game online makes £10 million a year. Company breaks even, stays in business.

The article is about the RETAIL industry only. Online retailers can afford to sell below cost, more so than retail, due to the aforementioned lower expenses they have.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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HappyNoodleBoy 4 years ago
I really couldn't care, but isn't Dixons Currys now?
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PrometheusFan 4 years ago
Uh... since when have HMV, GAME, GameStop et al ever sold games at "Below cost"? They all usually charge well above what the likes of online retailers and even supermarkets charge for new titles. And while he might be correct about there being a real crisis in the UK retail market, that's not so much an issue with games retail as it is an issue with retail as a whole in the UK, as the incompetent Tory government continues to deepen this country's economic implosion at every turn.
Lavindathar's avatar
Examples - Resident Evil 6, 2 weeks after release, £19.99. WWE 12, 2 weeks after release, £19.99..... Theres two straight off the bat.

They charge full price for 2 weeks, then the games go on sale. Then they lose whatever profit they made,by selling below cost to get more people in.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
PrometheusFan's avatar
I never saw those titles go down in price that quickly. I usually pop in to my local HMV/Game(They're next to each other) once a week, and I know Resi 6 took months to go under 20 quid in GAME, and still hasn't in HMV.
PrometheusFan 4 years ago
Lavindathar's avatar
Asda had RE6/WWE12 at £20 within two weeks. Game, had RE6 at £24.99 and WWE12 at £20. I might mean WWE13 btw, the new one.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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Bindiana 4 years ago
How can online retailers afford to sell below cost? your missing major fundementals in accountancy. The retail business is failing due to the high amounts paid in rent and rates.
Lavindathar's avatar
Did you even read my above reply to you? This is exactly what I stated. Its why online retailers can afford to do it, yet high street can't.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Bindiana's avatar
Your missing the point again online retail cant sell below cost as there is no way to make up the lost money. If your selling games at a loss to begin no retailer can survive . Shopto dont sell used games so they dont make any profit there. Consoles I know for a fact make next to nothing your lucky if you make a couple quid on a console. So if Shopto are selling games at below cost how are then not bankrupt?
Bindiana 4 years ago
Lavindathar's avatar
Your confusing the fact of selling some items below cost, compared to selling ALL your stock below cost.

Its made up in other areas :)
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Bindiana's avatar
Yeah but usually if they sell below cost its usually due to poor sales management either they have ordered to many copies or not much interest in the game. The problem game have is not enough diversity they have to Top 20 games and a selection of others so have to keep getting rid of one game so they have room for new releases the next week. So the retail industry is stuggling due to poor planning.
Bindiana 4 years ago
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XenoNick 4 years ago
If anything it shows that ordering online is the preferred way to go. Going into a retail store to pick a game up to be bombarded with "Do you want the strategy guide? It's really helpful ya know." or trying to push me to pre-order is really off putting. When it comes down to trading in games retails stores are such a rip off, if I went and traded in Aliens Colonial Marines today I would get £23 for it, that is insane as they will slap that one the shelf for £37 or something close to the full retail price. Am I sad that these stores risk going away? Sure but it's hard to care when a pre-ownded game in a retail store costs £20 when you can get a new copy online for the same price.
Lavindathar's avatar
I'd be gutted if the retail stores went away. I usually make money on trade ins, after getting the 1000g.

I bought RE6 for £19.99. Got the 1345g, traded back for £27. Few others I can think of recently, Lego LotR, Transformers : FoC, Farcry3 etc.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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Mark 4 years ago
I think Pachter is wrong. Firstly Game, Blockbuster and HMV have not gone bankrupt. The latter two are in adminstration, and all three are still trading. Obviously they are in desperate trouble, but so are many retailers across most sectors. Blockbusters problems are mostly related to competition from postal and streaming companies (i.e. Lovefilm). HMV is in trouble mostly because of music downloads. Game is in trouble because for the past 6 months the banks would not lend them money, and hence they had major problems sourcing the latest releases. The issue with high street computer games retailers is that they are too expensive. In a near triple dip recession customers will generally hunt for the best price. This is usually at an online retailer (but not from the three retailers that Pachter references. In short good games will always sell, but consumers are exceptionally price conscious.
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Datastatic 4 years ago
Someone needs to stop being so angry with the world.
Lavindathar's avatar
I'm as happy and cheerful as can be ;)

I just like a debate, and even if people disagree with me, thats fine too :D

However, if I think their logic is flawed, I will try to point it out lol.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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shadowrza 4 years ago
PSN yeah right dead space 3 psn price £59.99 shopto price £38.86 lol
Datastatic's avatar
Give it a month and it will be £20. I am guessing about the time Tomb Raider and Bioshock hit and no-one could care anymore. See also Aliens.
Datastatic 4 years ago
Lavindathar's avatar
Just to point this out - this will be below cost ;)
Lavindathar 4 years ago
Barada's avatar
I liked to buy most of my games after the initial fever has passed; it means I might miss out on any potential multiplayer mayhem, when all the players are new and active, but saving over 50% (after a few months or more) on the release price is always nice. Welcome to my world..
Barada 4 years ago
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bigsin17 4 years ago
i fully agree
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TruDarkAssassin 4 years ago
the reason game blockbuster , hmv ect were going bust is because they simply over charge for new games, online retailers do so well is because they keep there prices so low and thats where people are likely to shop , i rather pay less for a new game for shop to than paying more on the high street , i know we should support them as well but they need to sort out prices and a wider range of games like ni no many shops did not stock enough or at all so people cannot get hold of it
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But whats overcharging?

If a publisher sells a retailer a game for lets say, £30. thats the cost. then, you have to add your rent and rates, plus staff wages. Not directly onto that game ofc, but its got to be factored in.

If you sell say, 1000 games per week, for that week, the total of your rent/rates/wages has to be split across your profit of those 1000 games.

Publishers don't care obviously, as they charge £30 and thats what they get. However, the retailers due to their expenses (which online retailers dont have to the same extent) have to compensate somehow.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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LFC Bywater 4 years ago
I never buy games from Brick and mortar retailers simply because i'm not willing to pay the prices they charge, especially in this economic climate. Also blockbuster charge £6 to rent a game for 5 nights...I think that the main reason for Blockbuster's downfall is Netflix and Lovefilm. So so so much cheaper and much more convienient, Simples.
Barada's avatar
Only in sales or occasional discounts do I buy in-store, and, if the mood takes, a pre-owned. As far as rentals go for movies, I don't - usually see my newer releases on something like SKY movies. Been years since an actual rental of anything!
Barada 4 years ago
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Blockbuster have their own thing set up for that. But they've missed the boat in terms of being able to return the games to the store and pick up something else, instead they run just a 'return in post' option like LoveFilm. They also came in million miles late when Netflix and LoveFilm had already cornered their part of the market.
DynamiteWhyte 4 years ago
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TruDarkAssassin 4 years ago
have to agree if they are not willing to change there ways i can see this happening more in the future , online seems the way these days they offer prices and services the high street simply cannot
LFC Bywater's avatar
I was in Blockbuster last week when i rented DmC. Saw Darksiders 2 for £30.99, It's here on Shopto for about £12. It was the same for many other games. Who would seriously choose Blockbusters
LFC Bywater 4 years ago
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It's the only shop in my walking area that sells video games. You have to drive a few towns over to get to ASDA/Tesco and a little bit further to get to a game. It's the only reason I can see ANYBODY shopping at Blockbuster ever really. £45 open pricing on all games usually.
DynamiteWhyte 4 years ago
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The Dave 4 years ago
Just incase any of you were wondering about retailers selling games for a loss, they don't tend to sell them at a loss they just don't make enough on them to cover their operating costs, I used to work for Gametstation a couple of years back and we would get invoices with our deliveries which showed the unit price we paid the suppliers. For a brand new PS3/360 game this tended to be around anywhere £23-£28 per unit and we would generally sell them for between £37.99-£39.99 depending on competitors prices. The problem comes when lots of copies of certain games don't sell(some are purchased on sell or return so doesn't matter) and you reduce prices further cutting your margins further. Unfortunately for the physical retail side of things you rarely got a purchase without a trade in attached and this does cost the business overall as funds you would have are in assets rather than cashflow and unfortunately those assets continue to lose value daily until sold. For me the pre-owned market actually hurt retailers more than they like to let on unfortunately none of them want to admit this as for Gamestation particually pre-owned sales made up over 70% of our daily sales
Lavindathar's avatar
I agree with what your saying bud, but two points - a) I worked in the games industry for many years, and Id agree with your base prices that a publisher sells a retailer a game at. I'd say £25 average. Too many companies lately, are definately selling below cost in there sales, usually a few weeks after release. b) "they don't make enough on them to cover their operating costs". Ok, they aren't selling that one particular product AT a loss, however, this is still selling at a loss. Maybe this is where people are getting me confused. Selling at a loss doesn't directly mean, selling for less than you bought it for. It also means, not making enough profit per item to cover your expenses once they are factored in.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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Yeah totally see your point Lavindathar. I often say to people to who ask me why are shops like HMV/Game etc going bust and my response to them is normally "how many candle makers shops do you now see in towns since the invention of electricity" its a tongue in cheek comment I know but just an example of where a new medium has meant there is no/lesser need for the previous medium, unfortunately for these businesses they have been hit two fold by both digital content and online retailers.
The Dave 4 years ago
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sam 4 years ago
I swear down theres a new tax law coming in for games? i thought that was going to sort the problem. The games industry died a while ago when that company...was it monkey games? im not 100% sure on the name but they went bankrupt and realised about 4 years ago it was difficult to have a games company here, far too much tax not enough staff etc, but i think thats starting to change now UKIE made there final recommendations for games the other day its a 25% tax relief rate which is going to mean so much for the games industry :)
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craigwp2703 4 years ago
I think that the retail is way to overpriced! online stores have been nearly 100% of the time cheaper (if only by a penny at times). As a consumer I want to pay an amount that fits the item, whilst also allowing the creators of the item (in this case developers) to receive their due money, certain games selling for 45-50 in retail go for 40 online, it's a clear choice who will win
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vanneruk 4 years ago
Uh Game went bust because they were selling games at scammer prices, PC games at £39.99 when digitally I can get it for £25.00 yeah they deserved it and I don't see how they even got back on their feet they are a horrible company.
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vanneruk 4 years ago
Uh Game went bust because they were selling games at scammer prices, PC games at £39.99 when digitally I can get it for £25.00 yeah they deserved it and I don't see how they even got back on their feet they are a horrible company.
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vanneruk 4 years ago
Uh Game went bust because they were selling games at scammer prices, PC games at £39.99 when digitally I can get it for £25.00 yeah they deserved it and I don't see how they even got back on their feet they are a horrible company.
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Konakona 4 years ago
This entire article is ridiculous. I don't use gamestop or blockbuster so I can't comment for them, but Game and Hmv aren't doing well because they overcharge so much. The games are usually £10 more expensive then elsewhere. In derby, game is about 3 shops away from another game trading shop called Grainger Games. Which usually undercut game by about £5-£10. Also they will match game's trade in price if you check what game offers. Not to mention trading games in is ridiculous as you lose about 80% of what you put in. If they go out of business I wont cry for their loss.
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ANDREW 4 years ago
40 quid is what game charges for a new release (42.99 i have seen for assassins creed, black ops etc) , 40 quid to us $ is $62 , gamestop and all those american outlets from what i have heard on podcasts charge $60 for their games .... he fails
superniceguy's avatar
GAME only sell GAME exclusives for 42.99 or more than other stores, standard editions are 40 or a little below, the same as all retailers. I think the point that he is making is the games drop a lot faster in price in the UK, which they do. Looking at Far Cry 3 on Amazon US is 52.49 USD which is about 34 GBP. Amazon UK is now selling it for 26 GBP (8 GBP cheaper), and GAME are selling it for 27.99 GBP which is still lower than the US but street retailers with shop have more costs to cover, and can not afford to go as low as online retailers. This is why Far Cry 3 has gone back up in the charts. People just do not buy games so much any more at release, as give it time they will soon drop in price fast in the UK
superniceguy 4 years ago
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inspector 74 4 years ago
Man i just despise Game they are just ripping people off in the main arent they??? HMV i always found they gave me a really good deal when I was trading with them but I always opted for credit rather than cash and without brown nosing our forum hosts there maybe one or two instances where ive picked up games cheaper elsewhere but as a whole shop to are just awesome
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GAME are not intentionally ripping people off, they have extra shop costs they need to pay, that online only retailers do not. Despite charging more they still got into financial trouble. ShopTo are still great as always have managed to get games to me on or before the release date, except sometimes games that get released on a Monday or Tuesday, as the weekend slows the post down.
superniceguy 4 years ago
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FABIO 4 years ago
This Michael Pachter sounds like he is talking out of his rear end. He's clearly unaware of a second economic downturn in 2012 causing weak retail sales ACROSS the retail sector. The likes of JJB, Clintons Cards, Peacocks & Comet to name a few also affected. Didn't HMV & Blockbuster also sell music, films, electronics & merchandise? So to blame their bankruptcy on undercutting game price attempts alone is an idiotic comment in itself. With regards to pre-owned trade ins, doesn't the gaming industry itself have a hand to play in f**king this up by making features of games require a one use code, thus ensuring trade in market is severely crippled?
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yes the game companies do have faults in that they have killed the preowned market
Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
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J-D 4 years ago
sort of but i know the shops that give me a good deal, yes that includes shopto. GAME sucks tho.
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game are awful and like rbs who bought them i expect administration by end of the year
Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
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Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
online is best such as shopto very good place here but he has a point of the high street hmv are stupidly priced and i went into blockbuster the other day looked at dead space 3 and walked out again i saw a £49.99 sticker no wonder they are in trouble
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Online retailers are great for price, street shops are great for getting games ASAP, and no waiting for it to arrive in post (especially after Fri as will miss a weekend gaming with mates) but it is the online retailers that are spoiling things, as street retailers can not compete with the extra charges they have to pay for running a shop. If the games did not drop so fast like the US eg Far Cry 3 is £6 cheaper at GAME (online) compared to Amazon US, then they would be able to compete better. I would rather see online retailers still charging about £33-£35 for Far Cry 3, for a few more months, so then street shops can keep up. That fact that it is £25 -£28 already is ridiculous. It is killing street stores.
superniceguy 4 years ago
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Robichoico 4 years ago
NEVER! I refuse to agree with Pachter about anything XD But seriously. Who are Dixons? The retailer that got bought out by Currys about five years ago? Or is Patcher confused between games and pies? But I doubt these stores are selling below cost. We don't even know what cost is these days. If we can see games go down to £30 a week or so after release like DMC then cost has to be about £20 to these shops? Possibly even less. I remember one person who used to own a game shop telling me that if I knew how much the bigger places were actually buying their games for then you'd be disgusted at paying half the price we do. But to be fair. On the topic of which. Grainger Games which does competitive prices and trade ins seems to be expanding if anything
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Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
i have an idea as i looked at selling games on ebay from a credit account and for ps2 games it cost 16-20 with gem now i expect this has gone up from that so i imagine shopto must make i reckon 8 on a purchase it could be less but consider the staff costs postage etc. the game stores will find this tougher due to rent costs and they do reduce stupidly it depends also how you buy in bulk etc my problem and reason i didn't do it was the credit account you have to be well established to get games cheaper and more credit
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Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
do anyone know if tesco make a loss when they do the call of duty fifa 25 pound thing
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I believe they do. But they usually attach a 'spend £40 to get FIFA for £25' clause on to it. Or atleast Sainsburys do. Or if they don't, they atleast hope people will buy other things that they'll make a bigger profit on.
DynamiteWhyte 4 years ago
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Yes they do, but they've admitted as much themselves. Tesco and Asda are experts at loss-leading.
Lavindathar 4 years ago
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As far as I'm aware Tesco get them for around £20 a unit due to buyer power
The Dave 4 years ago
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Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
i remember seeing something about a psn card the thing is how many do they ship in. have to be about a million i reckon
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Oli_1 4 years ago
I haven't stepped foot in a high street video game store for about 3 years. Gamestation used to have loads of really old stuff going way back to Master System and NES games but then they became basically carbon copies of GAME stores. I buy all my console stuff online now. Mostly from Shopto and when I want really old school stuff, eBay. My PC games I get from Steam or GOG.
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Kelly-Marie 4 years ago
i have but i havent walked out with anything i find the prices stupidly high who wants to pay so much for a title you can get online for 15 pounds cheaper gamestation were good when they were independants they had all the retro options
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John 4 years ago
I don't know about Blockbuster but Game and HMV were both selling games at relatively high prices, at least around the £35 range (except for certain sales obviously). In fact its because of that I think that led to their downfall, why pay full price from a high street retailer when I can go online? In fact the last time I bought a game from HMV was quite a number of years ago. Anyway this guy wants retailers to do what exactly? Sell at an even higher price? I'm pretty sure that would backfire and push even more people to make purchases online.
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It seems the article has been misinterpreted. The article is surrounding retail which includes online and high street. GAME and HMV and Blockbuster are only mentioned as they are the ones going out of business. I do not think he wants the high street stores to pay more, but what he is saying is that the online retailers are driving the prices down, making it hard for street retailers to stay afloat. If GAME and Blockbuster and HMV dropped their prices to match online retailers that would also lead to their downfall, as would not have enough revenue to pay for the costs of running high street stores. High Street Stores need not do anything, online retailers need to think more when dropping prices. I have no issue if online retailers were still selling games at full price for about a year, it would make it worthwhile buying a game at release, and have time to play it and then you can resell if you want and get almsot the same price back minus about a fiver or so. Because prices drop so fast these days, it is best to just wait, and you do not have to wait long, a few weeks or so. Far Cry 3 is still £34 at Amazon US, and in the UK it is around £25 now. If you bought Far Cry 3 at launch and are now finished with it you'd be lucky to get £20 now, but if the price was still at £34 like the US you could get about £30 for it. So in the end it makes no point buying game at launch, when they drop so quick. In the UK online retailers drop prices by 10 pounds or more, US drop prices by a few pounds.
superniceguy 4 years ago
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I do understand what you mean, Dihonored hasn't been out that long and already its like 22.99 on Amazon which is quite surprising. Although personally I don't want to see a game stay at £40 for a year, that's quite ridiculous imo, online retailers need to drive prices down abit for people to even think its worth buying online than just going into a store and getting the game there and then.
John 4 years ago

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